I just played a CI (and later Low Life) toon to 96 and was able to get a 12k ES pool with no shield, low-ish ES armor, and a dead ring slot. It had crazy life steal with vaal pact and I still died plenty. The thought of attempting end game content with a 6k or even 7k life pool on hardcore just seems crazy to me. With decent gear 15K+ ES should be easily achievable. Here is my second crack at a CI tree. I added the Vitality Void life steal cluster near duelist because I'm not sure how else to make vaal pact work. http://poeplanner.com/AAQAAN0WAABsD6sRLxa_JIsqOGqMdf2Eb4TFm7Wi2bDYtUjDOsgU1EL1b-tjidNwUioLXfJHBth2uT6sZizhDkgRlgcelS7w1UlRfeN_xpMn74j5N9fPSbErCtDQX2qP-uwYLL8V14auVmO-isrTtAzqug18oS9sCyL0bRnZWxslS67pAhFQNbmnKx1PLR9Ms9Af7-uMNgMeH0EZipcGxKLfmGJaJJ3Tfu965woKm3jr_MUNjVuvTioj028nmmqPYFb1226X0I6Kpn_tQZAbcFaaE9vUhKIHmVnwTI4yMhCSAAAAAAA= I think low life would be optimal. The more damage multiplier from PA double dips and running discipline from life frees up more aura options. | Posted by A_Riot_Coming on Jan 22, 2017, 9:07:04 PM |
You have Pierce Support listed in 5L and 6L; Spectral Throw has Automatic Piercing; http://pathofexile.gamepedia.com/Spectral_Throw ' | Posted by argenex on Jan 23, 2017, 11:23:04 AM |
' The pierce gem is used only for its 19% more Projectile Damage and 10% from 20% quality totalizing 29% projectile damage , wich will works on the physical damage , chaos damage , and then on the poison. The only gem better for damage is slower projectile but it will remove all your range(on some bosses i change my GMP with slower projectile for a huge damage boost). | Posted by edwinschi on Jan 23, 2017, 12:29:59 PM |
' Correct IGN: WayTooFrosty -|- Assassin Spectral Throw: /view-thread/1803119 | Posted by on Jan 23, 2017, 1:06:04 PM |
' Many life based builds are successful 'end game' (depending how you define that). Life based builds are usually limited to the 6-7k range. However, the life pool is only part of the survivability component here. Part of your issue with the 12k ES and no shield, is the no shield.. By dropping a shield, of course you're adding more damage. But you're also losing ~30% block chance, which is huge when added to other forms of mitigation (life pool, curses (temp chains, enfeeble), EVA/armour, arctic armour, defensive flasks). To make builds work endgame HC or even leveling SC to 100, you need many layers of mitigation, not just a big life/ES pool. But at this point in PoE, ES appears to be substantially stronger (and more expensive) endgame than life-based builds. Assuming keeping other forms of mitigation as well. My guess is this build can be modified, and likely improved as ES. IGN: WayTooFrosty -|- Assassin Spectral Throw: /view-thread/1803119 | Posted by on Jan 23, 2017, 1:11:27 PM |
Looking back, my last post wasn't very well written, and I don't think I got across the message I was going for. I only mentioned not having a shield in the last build I played (along with a 440 ES chest and a dead ring slot) to emphasize how easy it would be to get much higher than 12k ES with this build, which can use a 400+ ES shield and a 700+ ES chest (which can be bought for 5-10 chaos each on BSC). I don't want to get bogged down talking about a CwC blight/vortex Occultist in a thread about ST Assassins, but survivabilty was not remotely an issue with that build. I could face tank Minotaur in a map with 3 stacked damage mods making no attempt to dodge, and cleared all content. I only mentioned my deaths in an attempt to highlight how important it is to over-build defenses in this game, especially when attempting Hardcore (which I am new to). I realize that is a very obvious point. I think we are in agreement that ES is currently the best way to do that. I also think there is a bit of a misconception about how expensive ES gear is. Sure, the top end stuff can get pretty ridiculous. But especially on a build that doesn't require any special uniques (outside of perhaps a one handed weapon), it isn't that difficult to build high ES with capped resists on a 1-2 ex budget. There is a lot of value in the 5-10 chaos range in gear. For example a 400+ ES helm with two good resist rolls costs 8+ ex, but a 350 ES helm with no resists costs 5 chaos. We have two ring slots and a belt to cap resists. | Posted by A_Riot_Coming on Jan 23, 2017, 10:02:00 PM |
Thanks for the response, I was hoping it was something like that for the Pierce Support. I'm currently playing this build and leveling, should I be focusing on armor for survival as I level? Seems like I should be; I had mixed armor since this is my first toon this league and was getting whapped a lot painfully. I switched to Tab (found one already) and 4 linked (mana issues) Spec Throw so I'm lacking chest armor. Thanks a lot for this build; I have had a bad habit of always sticking to cyclone marauder because I know it by heart and I am happy to finally play something different. | Posted by argenex on Jan 23, 2017, 10:30:31 PM |
' I pretty much agree with everything here. I think adding multiple tiers of defensive mechanics is difficult for some people, especially those that are newer. The most obvious point to start is life/ES, but that's not sufficient when entering late game content as you mentioned. It can be a challenge to see how some mechanics can synergize to add survivability. In addition, this can be a place where builds become expensive because the utility of some flasks (that can be quite expensive) may be overlooked by newer players. I think the basic ES items (at least mid range gear) is in the ballpark of price of life based gear. However, some accessory items can be quite a bit more expensive. But the take away is you can make successful ES based characters without completely breaking the bank. IGN: WayTooFrosty -|- Assassin Spectral Throw: /view-thread/1803119 | Posted by on Jan 24, 2017, 2:22:11 PM |
' If you want to put your own spin on the build and stack armour, that may be a viable option. I didn't go that route with EVA/armour because to be effective, you need quite alot of either (or both). I chose other forms of mitigation, that become particularly important in later game content. I believe I described how to help manage mana issues (the leveling guide takes you down to mana leech nodes early in the build, and you can get +mana on hit jewels, or elreon jewelry). Survivability during leveling is quite a bit easier to manage than late game. Focus on increasing damage (damage is a form of defense), resistances, and lastly life/ES. You can use a shield if need be, arctic armour, jade flasks etc which may also help. IGN: WayTooFrosty -|- Assassin Spectral Throw: /view-thread/1803119 | Posted by on Jan 24, 2017, 2:26:27 PM |
Haven't tried anything on this guide yet, not too fluent in the game and it's tree. I just want to know what your BIS gear would be for end game. How you're holding up currently (and at what content). I want to know what lowlife would look like in this build and how the tree would go. If you have a CI based build for this. I don't really see 25k as a lot of dmg, however I'm not too sure about the chaos portion. I really love ST. It was the last build I played since 1.3. I pretty much just came back after so long during this league so I want to try ST again. | EDIT: What about stacking bleed, would that be too hard? Is bino's a must? Using voidheart an option or should I aim for a chaos dmg ring..? Last edited by oSingularity on Jan 24, 2017, 5:18:07 PM | Posted by oSingularity on Jan 24, 2017, 5:09:40 PM |
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Scion Ascendant
[3.7] DoomHerald | All Content | Millions+ DPS MirageArcher | 7k+ Life | 600+ Delves | 5-Link only
This is the DoomHerald! At it's core this is an(other) Mirage Archer supported Scourge Arrow/Rain of Arrows Build - but with some interesting twists on it. :)
It is a versatile Bow-Character base that can basically run any and all bow skills.
The first big thing about it is that it is cheap to start out and scales really well into the endgame with more investment - It is fully Endgame and UberElder viable on 5-links alone. It does some really funky stuff with the conversion mechanics and utelizes the second Scion Ascendancy we pick - Elementalist - to an degree that is not often found in other Builds.
Its other Scion-Ascendency pick is Slayer for its super strong overleech mechanic fuelled by Vaal Pact which almost feels mandatory for Life based builds that want to tackle the EndGame. Between those two Ascendencies the build is also totally immune to both physical and elemental reflect. Making this a true 'all content' build.
In short: A 7k+ Life, Vaal Pact, Overleeching, Immune to all Reflect Types, Bow-Build with 3-Mio+ ShaperDPS while having Mirage-Archer linked up. Also no 'shocked' state checked or other shifty things enabled when it is questionably if they are appropiate.
Gems Setup
Weapon: Herald of Purity + Herald of Ice + Herald of Thunder + Herald of Ash + Enlighten.
Deactivate one of the Elemental Heralds of your choice while leveling/not having an Enlighten. You can 6link eventually and socket a Blind Support in it if you want. Or get blind somewhere else (abyssal jewels, shaped/elder mod on quiver etc) and use the last socket for something like Blink Arrow.
Chest: Elemental Damage with Attacks + Mirage Archer + Increased Critical Strikes + Damage on Full Life + [BowSkill of your Choice] -> Scourge Arrow or Rain of Arrows
You can swap in Elemental Focus for even more Damage - but it will disable the ability to freeze, shock and burn enemies. This is a valid thing to do against bosses! If you want to do that swap out Increased Critical Strikes. (Since crits apply Elemental Ailments this support gets devalued by Elemental Focus)
Note: Damage on Full-Life works really well due to Slayer Overleech. If you have Blood Rage active it might look like you are not at full life - but you actually are. You can check that via tooltip. Its a known bug/curiosity with the interaction of those two gems.
Note: Damage on Full-Life works really well due to Slayer Overleech. If you have Blood Rage active it might look like you are not at full life - but you actually are. You can check that via tooltip. Its a known bug/curiosity with the interaction of those two gems.
Boots - Gloves - Helmet:
The following links can be interchangably used in the last three gearslots:
Lv 3 Immortal Call + Lv 1 Cast When Damage Taken. The gemlevel is of note here - normally you would want it as high as possible. Here it is best used like this.
Summon Lightning Golem:
Summon Ice Golem:
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-> we can summon two Golems as ScionElementalist, so we make use of it. If you dont want to manually resummon them get an Abyssal Gear-Piece with just one Abyssal socket and link them up with an Cast When Damage Taken support-gem. Level that one up though till you can support the golems (which you should level up as well).
Blood Rage:
Gives Frenzy Charges and AttackSpeed - is outhealed easily by the Slayer Overleech and SpiritBursts.
Phase Run:
Gotta go fast! And since Mirage Archer does most of the work anyhow we can can just zoom through the maps with this active while the MirageArcher does the work. Its also neat in delves if you are afraid of getting stuck in mobs.
Path of Building Link: https://pastebin.com/XBuBsTHi
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[3.7] Elemental Hit Scion Ascendant Endgame Build
- + All Content Viable.
- + Tanky. Huge amounts of life, Dodge, Spell Dodge. Slayer 'Life Leech is not Removed at Full Life' and massive Leech rate through Pantheon/Passive Tree make this one of the tankiest builds.
- + Resolute Technique. Gearing becomes simple when you don't care about crit or accuracy.
- + Unique Items Heavy. This is a major pro for me so I don't have to answer as many questions on gearing decisions! Makes things simple to gear for, no tricky rares to find and hunt on trade websites.
- - Not a great league starter. On top of the notoriously difficult leveling of Scions this build relies on many uniques. You are at the mercy of the 'meta' when it comes to the prices of said uniques and in an SSF environment the build basically cannot function without the Combat Focus threshold jewels.
- - Have to reroll some map mods. Elemental Reflect is not possible for this build. Even with Sibyl's Lament, Yugul Pantheon, and Primeval Force you do too much damage and will 1-shot yourself against reflect.
- - Can be high budget. Without giving you a lecture on economics (supply and demand) I'll just mention it for the third time: The build relies on uniques. If GGG suddenly decides that Combat Focus jewels are going to be ultra-rare then the build will be hard to afford. Before getting started with this build take a peek at the gear recommendations and see what the prices of those uniques are and if it's in the range of things you can afford with your level of currency.
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Elemental Hit
Single Target: Elemental Hit - Elemental Damage with Attacks - Combustion - Mirage Archer - Fire Penetration - Damage on Full Life
Clearing: Elemental Hit - Elemental Damage with Attacks - Greater Multiple Projectiles - Combustion - Mirage Archer - Fire Penetration
NOTES show
NOTE: Cold to Fire is top priority if you aren't using Pyre Ring.
NOTE: Experiment with taking out Mirage Archer for Faster Attacks if it suits your playstyle more!
NOTE: End Gamers using Empower look for the +2 Level of Socketed Support Gems! Check PoB if this is more DPS for you!
Remember to try out different gems to suit your setup and consult Path of Building if you want the best numbers! Elemental Focus will often show up as a huge MORE multiplier for your damage but it removes the ability to Shock and Ignite which would be a huge detriment to your damage! ***NOTE: If you are using a Clearing and a Single Target setup together you can apply ailments with your Clearing and then use Ele Focus on your Single Target setup.
NOTE: Cold to Fire is top priority if you aren't using Pyre Ring.
NOTE: Experiment with taking out Mirage Archer for Faster Attacks if it suits your playstyle more!
NOTE: End Gamers using Empower look for the +2 Level of Socketed Support Gems! Check PoB if this is more DPS for you!
Remember to try out different gems to suit your setup and consult Path of Building if you want the best numbers! Elemental Focus will often show up as a huge MORE multiplier for your damage but it removes the ability to Shock and Ignite which would be a huge detriment to your damage! ***NOTE: If you are using a Clearing and a Single Target setup together you can apply ailments with your Clearing and then use Ele Focus on your Single Target setup.
Auras
None! This is a Blood Magic build. Before picking up the keystone: Anger/Flammability-Blasphemy/Herald of Ash/Arctic Armor can all be considered.
Utility
Cast When Damage Taken – Blood Rage - Immortal Call – Vaal Cold Snap show
Don’t overlevel your gems. You need to keep these gems relatively low level because we want CWDT to proc at a lower life threshold. By keeping it low – it also limits what level of spell it can cast.
Vaal Cold Snap does double duty here. It will automatically cast the non-vaal version of Cold Snap when you get hit (which applies a chill). Remember applying different ailments allows Elemental Hit and Yoke of Suffering to give you More damage! The Vaal Cold Snap can gives you the chill on demand.
Don’t overlevel your gems. You need to keep these gems relatively low level because we want CWDT to proc at a lower life threshold. By keeping it low – it also limits what level of spell it can cast.
Vaal Cold Snap does double duty here. It will automatically cast the non-vaal version of Cold Snap when you get hit (which applies a chill). Remember applying different ailments allows Elemental Hit and Yoke of Suffering to give you More damage! The Vaal Cold Snap can gives you the chill on demand.
Blink Arrow - Faster Attacks show
Great mobility and gap crossing.
Great mobility and gap crossing.
Lightning Golem show
Gives attack and movespeed if you can afford to get the links.
Can be annoying to recast and keep up so try having a high level Cast When Damage Taken. Culling Strike, Blind, and/or Increased Item Rarity are good ways to get more value from your golem.
Gives attack and movespeed if you can afford to get the links.
Can be annoying to recast and keep up so try having a high level Cast When Damage Taken. Culling Strike, Blind, and/or Increased Item Rarity are good ways to get more value from your golem.
Decoy Totem show
A great utility totem which helps for bosses.
A great utility totem which helps for bosses.
Other Nice to Haves
Vaal Grace: Some extra survivability for bosses.
Vaal Haste: For all the speed demons.
With any of these Vaal Skills consider linking to Increased Duration!
Quality Priority
Elemental Hit > Damage Supports (All give .5% increase) > Attack Speed Supports (GMP)
Path of Building Link: https://pastebin.com/5NKzd3Mb
[3.7] Winter Orb CWC Ice Spears. 8.6k hp ,slayer leech, 9.8-10.7 mil dps ,Depth 749, easy Uber Elder
Skills and Mechanics
We are simultaneously dealing damage with 2 skills here: Winter orb and Ice spears. Winter orb is our trigger skill and ice spears is indirectly cast while we channel winter orb via the use of the support : Cast While Channeling
While channeling winter orb , ice spears is cast every 0.35 seconds. This is a fixed interval that is not affected by cooldown recovery mods.
This build clears pretty fast as expected of a winter orb setup while dealing millions of dps to obliterate bosses and syndicate members with ice spears.. The idea here is to combine the fastest clearing spell build that has built in auto targeting with the highest dps spell in game to create a build that is both fast at clearing and has amazing single target. The scion ascendancy gives us the option to obtain slayer leech as well as reflect immunity on top of the good clear speed and single target we already have
It should be noted that the ice spears projectiles have a 2nd form which is much more powerful than the 1st form (more crit and crit multi) and hence there is a need to position yourself at a suitable distance to maximize your dps. You can check out the gif of my character downing minotaur above where I stand at just the right distance to hit and shotgun the boss with all the 2nd form ice spears projectiles.
Gems Setup
Weapon: Winter Orb - Controlled Destruction - Ice Spear - Hypothermia - Greater Multiple Projectiles - Empower
Gloves: Projectile Weakness - Cast when Damage Taken - Immortal Call - Frost Bomb
Helmet: Clarity - Flame Dash - Arcane Surge - Vitality
Boots: Herald of Ice - Righteous Fire - Blood Rage - Empower
Path of Building link: https://pastebin.com/c2YjJFMt
More Details: poeurl.com/cod0
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